Conservative News & Commentary

Feb 3, 2016 — by: A. Smith
Categories: Government, News, Culture

In God We TrustIn a vote of 2-1, the Klamath County Commissioners yesterday approved placing a sign “In God We Trust” in the public meeting room at the Government Center. The sign will be developed from private donations and defended, should someone bring a lawsuit, by the Pacific Justice Institute of Sacramento. In other words the sign will not cost the tax payers a dime to develop or defend. Carol Warren led the effort with the help of Commissioner Tom Mallams to get the item on the commissioner’s agenda.

You can read the Herald and News version here

Of course, when a positive thing, a conservative thing, happens in this county the Herald and News is quick to find dissenting opinions. Klamath Falls City Councilwoman Trish Seiler is one who is opposed to the sign. Per the paper Seiler said that county government “needs to stay out of religion, and religion stay out of government.”

That is quite an interesting statement, because it is contrary to our nation’s founding — a foreign idea. Seiler is correct in that government should stay out of religion by not establishing any religion. However she is completely wrong with the notion that religion should stay out of government.

Did you know that today, Congress still opens each session with a prayer in both the US House and US Senate? For several generations after the founding of this country the Capitol Building in DC was used for church services on Sundays. The fact that life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness flow from an understanding of God endowing each human with said rights and that idea being the basis for our revolution is indisputable. No Ms. Seiler, religion is deeply embedded into the fabric and founding of our nation’s government and why so many died for our independence from tyranny. If you remove religious influence from government you set us on a quick course for tyranny once again.

Seiler’s statement is not only unAmerican, it is uninformed — in other words foolishness and worse, ignorance parading about as enlightened thought. Other comments opposed to the sign, promoted by the paper, are just as silly and not really worth discussing.

Bravo to Commissioner Mallams AND Carol Warren for standing up for our nation’s motto, and the God who oversees it.


  1. Peggy ~ Feb. 3, 2016 @ 11:25 am

    Who was the dissenting vote? #
  2. Lisa Johnson ~ Feb. 3, 2016 @ 11:39 am

    Thanks to Mr. Mallams and Ms. Warren for standing up and doing the right thing. These fools that keep quoting the constitution should read it and actually understand what it says and doesn't say about the "establishment of religon" as in "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". With regards to Minty, well she is a poor replacement for Linthicum. As the paper article pointed out this issue as been around the country for awhile and she has had a lot of time to figure out a position. Again, much praise goes to Mallams and Warren for standing up for what is right and taking a position. Lisa #
  3. Lisa Johnson ~ Feb. 3, 2016 @ 11:41 am

    P.S. Framing a dollar bill, really Minty?? Are you kidding? Really? Politicians like that are the reason this county is in trouble. Lisa #
  4. Fred Starkey ~ Feb. 3, 2016 @ 12:06 pm

    Separation of Church and State? There is no separation. When people get food,housing,education, medical care,& other gifts for free from the state, they worship the state: the state becomes their Church and their Religion. We need separation of Church of State. Get the State out of religion. #
  5. George Wright ~ Feb. 3, 2016 @ 12:30 pm

    It was said that: Councilwoman Trish Seiler is one who is opposed to the sign. In the paper Seiler is quoted as saying that county government “..needs to stay out of religion, and religion stay out of government.” The Constitution does not support that political position, indeed unless some anti-Christian person attempts to parse the First Amendment to infer the contrary, it has never been an issue in this county, this state and indeed, this nation. Not even the Jefferson letter to John Adams "the wall of separation between Church and State" was intended to remove all references to religion and our time honored practices of prayer and celebration of our founders. Neither does the First Amendment and the other founding documents, letters, broadsides or editorials grant the rights specified in the Bill of Rights. Those rights and all others have been granted to each citizen at birth by Almighty God and those ten rights are the Deus Ex Machina that reminds, guarantees and validates those rights, already given, are to be followed. So how do we deal with those who might be offended by the practice of Christianity? We don't. I can find no Constitutional reference or inference that says that being offended nor is either a moral or legal right other than laws regarding slander. This is a "Get Thee Behind Me Satan" moment. Taking offense is also a right granted at birth under that other part of the First Amendment which guarantees free speech. So if a thing offends you, feel free to write, broadcast or speak of your feelings. There are no Constitutional construct denying or approving of it just as there is no Constitutional mandate that others have to listen. So "In God We Trust" is legally acceptable and morally imperative. It is a reminder of our beginnings, a plea, and a prayer that we need behave legally and politically in all things. #
  6. Mel Page ~ Feb. 3, 2016 @ 3:03 pm

    Since people don't seem to understand the where this separation originated, I'm posting the website that covers the distortion and people that caused its creation. Read it for yourself. Mel Page Philippines #
  7. Carol & David Warren ~ Feb. 3, 2016 @ 4:40 pm

    Thanks for paying attention folks to this important issue. The God-haters keep saying this is unconstitutional. To the contrary, it is totally within our Constitutional Rights to display our National Motto. And in fact, there are 596 other cities & counties displaying the Motto, with more coming onboard every day. Our plaque will be a treasure-gift from citizens of Klamath County, displaying not only IN GOD WE TRUST, but picturing the natural resources given to our Basin by our Creator, which we all love so much. Please show your support to your County Commissioners for their brave decision. #
  8. Carol Warren ~ Feb. 4, 2016 @ 8:27 am

    It's very important that we attend the Commissioner's meeting next Tues., Feb. 9th, by 8:45AM, to show support for our National Motto. You can bet the God-haters will be there to complain, and get ugly. I do not understand why they hate Patriots who love God. #
  9. Steve Souder ~ Feb. 4, 2016 @ 2:21 pm

    All Godly people should take a stand on this.Our Country's founders intended for this to be a God fearing nation. I plan to be prepared and use facts and founders words "Not my own opinion" Those opposed to any reference to God in government really don't have a leg to stand on. unless they plan to prove Congress, Our Founders and the Court are liars. Steve Souder #
  10. Debra Burnsworth ~ Feb. 10, 2016 @ 9:52 am

    This is 100% disrespectful of every tax paying Klamath County citizen who is not a god believer. This is pandering to god believers. No atheist is asking to put up a sign saying "In NO Gods DO WE TRUST".... so don't be saying atheists are trying to disrespect believers. It is believers who are showing total disrespect for any but their fellow god believers. #
  11. E. Werner Reschke ~ Feb. 10, 2016 @ 12:59 pm

    Debra, is every dollar bill and coin in your purse disrespectful to you? Is this so troubling that you refuse to use this money with God We Trust written on it? Or do you live your life and ignore it? Placing such a sign in the Government Center is the same acknowledgement that Congress made in 2011 and that our founding father's made in 1776. You don't have to believe in a God Creator, but without such a being, there is no secure place from which your rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness derive. #

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